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Authenticity, Compassion, and the Heart of God
What if we've been thinking about our spiritual journey all wrong? What if, instead of stumbling from one failure to the next, we're actually being progressively transfigured into Christ's image?
In this episode of The Resting Place podcast, we challenge the standard religious narrative that keeps believers trapped in a cycle of guilt and powerlessness. Drawing from the book "Beginning to Pray," we unveil a revolutionary perspective: the whole logic behind Jesus becoming human was simply that God wanted to share divine life with us. This sharing includes the glorious transformation of believers—not a distant theological concept, but an ongoing reality where we're moving from one greater level of glory to another.
Perhaps most profound is the revelation about God's compassion as the motivating force behind divine intervention. Western Christianity has emphasized God's power while neglecting His willingness to use that power on our behalf. "Believing in the power of God is not different than what the devils believe about God," Ben notes, citing F.F. Bosworth's teaching that it's God's compassion, not just His ability, that brings supernatural breakthrough.
The Holy Spirit's ministry emerges as an extension of Jesus' compassion—not a separate mission, but a continuation of Christ's work of revealing the Father's true nature. Through examples from healing ministries and Jesus' own ministry, we see how every divine intervention stems from this wellspring of divine compassion.
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Hi everyone. I'm Ben and I'm Logan and we're the Robins. Welcome to the Resting Place Podcast. Alright, I'm going to start with a reading from my book Beginning to Pray, and I covered this last week, but I want to share this again this week. And again, we're framing everything that we're teaching through the lens of I'm gonna open this up to my notes from last time because I believe Yep. So we're framing everything that we're teaching and everything that we're beginning to believe about God and everything that we're learning about the nature of the Father through these two things One, that the whole logic of the incarnation is that the Father, son and Spirit wanted to share their life with us. And two, we have been predestined unto a purpose. We are currently being transfigured into the image of Christ. One, the whole logic of the incarnation of Jesus is that he wanted to share his life with us, period. And two, we have been predestined unto a purpose. We have been predestined unto a purpose, and that purpose is that we would be transfigured into the image of Christ. And I use that language on purpose. We see that language on the Mount of Transfiguration, where Jesus is up praying with Peter, james and John. They go up to the top of a mountain All of a sudden. The Bible says that his I believe it's the New King James says that his clothes became whiter than any launderer could make them. And Moses and Elijah appeared next to him and they spake to him. The transfiguration of the believer into the image of Christ is not less profound than the transfiguration of Christ on the mountain. The transfiguration of the believer is not less profound than the transfiguration of Christ on the mountain.
Speaker 1:Corinthians teaches us that Moses got so filled with the glory of the Lord when he met with the Lord face to face when he said Lord, show me your glory. And the Lord said I can't show you my glory because no man can see my face and live, but I'll show you my. I'll pass before you, I'll show you my hind parts, I'll pass before you and you may see what's left after I walk by. So he hides him in the cleft of the rock and when he passes by, moses is allowed to see the trail of the Lord. He didn't even see his face. He saw the trail of the Lord, what trailed him as he walked by, and he was so filled by, he was so overcome by the glory of the Lord that he got in that glory realm and his skin began to shine and it shone to the point that he had to cover his face because the people were terrified because he was glowing. And he says, and Paul teaches us, that if the former ministry had a measure of glory such that Moses had to hide his face and it was a fading glory, it says the former ministry was a ministry of glory, although it was a fading glory. The ministry of the law was a fading glory and Moses, under the ministry of the law, had to hide his face because he had been so touched by the glory of the Lord that he shone.
Speaker 1:How much more than does a superior ministry carry a greater level of glory? I'm going to throw my table before today is over. I'm starting to feel it. I'm starting to feel. I'm starting to feel it. How much more does the ministry of glory carry a greater level of glory? The ministry of reconciliation is how we would look at that. The ministry of glory carry a greater level of glory. The ministry of reconciliation is how we would look at that. The ministry of reconciliation that we have all been entrusted with carries with it a specific inheritance, and the specific inheritance that the ministry of reconciliation that we have been entrusted with carries with it this inheritance. The inheritance of the ministry of reconciliation is the glory of the Lord covering the earth as the waters do cover the sea. And the only way that the glory of the Lord covers the earth, as the waters do cover the sea, is if the ministers of reconciliation then become glorious. So we are being currently transfigured into the image of Christ and we covered, we touched on.
Speaker 1:Last week I made this statement and I was impressed with the statement. So I'll say it again we're not stumbling from one failure to the next failure, from mess up to mess up, from mess up to mess up, from screw up to screw up, from I can never get it right, will never seem to get it right. I've never been able to get it right. And if we stay in that mindset, what then will happen is that we'll never apply the appropriate amount of faith to the promise of Scripture. That is, you are being transfigured. You're going through progressive transfiguration from one greater level of glory to another greater level of glory, to another greater level of glory, to another greater level of glory, and it becomes an unending cycle of the saints becoming glorious.
Speaker 1:Does that mean we'll be perfect?
Speaker 1:Does that mean we'll never make a wrong step?
Speaker 1:Does that mean we'll never get wrong-foot?
Speaker 1:Mean we'll never make a wrong step?
Speaker 1:Does that mean we'll never get wrong footed? No, it doesn't mean that. But what it does mean is that even those times where we make a wrong step, or we have we're wrong footed or something happens or we come under attack and we find ourselves in the midst of trial or attack or you name the scenario, what we then can trust and lean into is that he turns all things and uses them for our good. Even though he didn't send them, even though he didn't send the attack, he turns and uses all things for our good. And when he says I'm using all things for your good, what we then can interpret that through our predestined, our predestined destination, is that we then can trust that, if I'm currently in less than ideal circumstances, there's something about these less than ideal circumstances that almighty Yahweh is going to use to cause me to come into the greatest level of the glory of the Lord that I've ever been in. So when he says when, when Baxter Kruger says the whole logic of the incarnation is that the Father, son and Spirit wanted to share their life with us. There are specific things that come along with the Father, son and Spirit sharing their life with us us and we can extrapolate from that statement many things, but one of the things that I want to pull from it is he's literally saying I want to share my image with you. Yahweh said let us make man in our image, let us form man from the dust of the earth and let us make man in our image. And so he formed man from the dust of the earth and he breathed the breath of life. He breathed the breath of life into man, and man was made in the image of Almighty Yahweh. That is not a superior frame to the one we've been given, especially on the other side of the cross, where we have been freed. We have been freed from being under the condemnation of death that we were under before the cross.
Speaker 1:There's a debate inside of theological circles that would say we're under the guilt of Adam, we're under the punishment of Adam and we're under death right. So we're under guilt, punishment, sin. We're born inherently evil. We're born inherently sinful. We're born completely depraved. Now, I reject total depravity. I reject total depravity. I'm not sure where exactly I land just yet on all the nuances of the doctrine and Lou's helping me kind of search that out. Lou and Lucy did some research and wrote some notes for me that I'm currently going through and processing thoughts with. But I reject total depravity and I reject that my children are born under the guilt of Adam, especially on the other side of the cross.
Speaker 1:You can't make a coherent argument that our children are born under the guilt of Adam on the other side of Jesus' complete and total victory at the cross. You cannot make that argument biblically. You'd have to twist scripture and twist the nature of God in order to do so. So that then means the same for us. So I always look at it, I always look at this. I'm a dad, so I kind of always frame things through like, well, my kids aren't inherently evil. That means I'm not inherently evil because I'm alive on the other side of the cross too. That means you're not totally depraved. That means you're not inherently evil. That means all of these things are, then true of us.
Speaker 1:There are some nuances and some finer points that I'm still working out in my doctrinal approach to all of these things, but I am seeing how they taint and how they separate us from God in our thinking. Yeah, gina, what so define depravity? Because I feel like everybody's lens of depravity is different. It's like a moving scale, right? Well, yeah, there's like different. So, like a good working definition. This is not going to be an exact definition, but like a good working definition would just be from, like Calvin's own statements, totally unable to seek the face of God, totally unable to do anything good apart from God, completely evil in every respect. That would be total depravity.
Speaker 1:Essentially, calvin was not a pastor, no, he was a lawyer. He saw the gospel in terms of a courtroom Yep. He saw the gospel in terms of a courtroom Yep. And God is the judge and Jesus is the defender and Satan is the prosecutor Yep. That is totally untrue.
Speaker 1:And that's the gospel we've been handed down, even in our teaching on the other side of the cross, is that the Father is the judge, jesus is our defendant and the enemy is the accuser, and we will use these languages he's the accuser and he's pointing at us, accusing us of all the things that we have done. We did those things and the Father is ready with the gavel to render judgment against us. And Jesus holds his hand up and says wait, wait, look at my scars. Wait, look at, look at the. Look at my back, look at the nail prints in my hands. Look at the spear print in my side. You can't punish them. I took their punishment. That's not the gospel. That's the gospel we've been handed down, but that is not the gospel.
Speaker 1:The gospel is that Yeshua reconciled all things back to God, and we are not now being held in a courtroom being accused by the accuser. That's not how this works. We see, oh my goodness, what we do is we separate the trinity, and in separating the Trinity, we remove the power of what Jesus did. So we'll say things like the Father turned his back on the Son while he was on the cross.
Speaker 1:Why it's so important, and why I hammer the thought that the Father was in Jesus, reconciling all things back to himself while Jesus was on the cross, is that the power of what Jesus did is held in that he never lost communion with the father in spirit, even in the midst of going through the ordeal of the cross. He never lost communion. He went all the way to the depths, all the way to the very bottom of Adam's delusion, all the way to the very bottom, and that's where he starts crying out my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? And he's quoting Psalms. If you read that Psalm to the end, it ends in triumph, it ends in the glory of the Lord. It ends in those things.
Speaker 1:And the hearers would have understood what he was saying at that time and we've taken that with our Western lens and our understanding, saying well, god forsook him while he was on the cross. Well, what you then have is the Trinity imploding. And the Trinity has never imploded. It has never been separated. They've never spent one moment apart in all of prehistory and all of history. They have never spent one moment outside of perfect and open communion with one another.
Speaker 1:And the beauty of all of this is and I'm going to transition, but the beauty of all of this is Jesus did all of this as a man. This is the power of what Jesus did. He took on our flesh and inside of our flesh he was the enfleshment of Jesus. Inside of the enfleshment of Jesus, he spent every waking moment in right union with the Father and the Spirit. He never separated. Tempted in every way that we were tempted, yet without sin. Tempted in every way that we were tempted and yet without sin. That means the union that he was in was stronger than the force of sin coming against his flesh. Guys, that's such a key. That's such a key. The union that he was in with the Father and the Spirit kept him from the forces of the evil one that were assailing him. And Baxter Kruger says step upon painful step, step upon painful step, he was tempted beyond our capacity to abstain, and he continued to abstain because he never broke communion.
Speaker 1:And it's because of this that we can then say that I am being transfigured continuously into the image of Christ. I am being glorified. The Orthodox Church calls it the glorification of the saints. The Orthodox Church has a doctrine of the glorification of the believers in Jesus, has a doctrine of the glorification of the believers in Jesus. Guys, that would help us so much. Rather than I'm snow covered dung, rather than I'm just useless and will continue to be useless and I'm just going to barely get in. I'm just a sinner saved by grace. That was true for a moment. You were a sinner saved by grace. At one point. You're not. Now You're no longer. That's going to make somebody mad, but I don't care. You're no longer a sinner saved by grace. You ceased to be a sinner, saved by grace, a nanosecond after you received Jesus and you're now just a son.
Speaker 1:And the fact that we continue to associate our salvation with sin is an affront to the actual gospel. It's actually offensive to God that we would do that thing and that's why there's no power inside of that kind of doctrine, that's why there's no power inside of that kind of theology. No wonder the people that have given themselves to that theology have gone to a powerless gospel and a powerless God. And there's no more gifts, there's no more moving in the supernatural, there's just the dead word, because we're just going to continue to choose to associate ourselves with our sin and we're going to rob the gospel of its power. You have ascribed to and believed a non-gospel and you'll never receive the inheritance of the saints that has been stored up for us before the very foundation of the world.
Speaker 1:There's an inheritance of the saints that has been stored for us before the very foundations of the world were laid. He was the lamb slain before the foundations of the earth. This inheritance didn't start when Jesus allowed himself to be pinned to that cross. It didn't start when Jesus climbed, allowed himself to be pinned to that cross. It didn't start then. It started in the heart of God before he even created us. He's the lamb slain before the very foundation of the earth. He saw it all, did it anyway? What level of glory has been stored up for us? There is an eternal glory that has been stored up for us that we. All we have to do, guys, is turn ourselves towards the truth and, with an open heart and faith, begin to believe and be convinced that this is the truth, and the light of heaven is going to start rushing in and you're going to see transformation come to areas that transformation come to areas that have refused to be transformed. From the book, beginning to Pray.
Speaker 1:There are other ways, too, in which God is absent. As long as we ourselves are real, as long as we are truly ourselves, god can be present and do something with us. But the moment we try to be what we are not, there is nothing left to say. Or have we become a fictitious personality, an unreal presence, and this unreal presence cannot be approached by God. There are other ways, too, in which God is absent. As long as we ourselves are real, as long as we are truly ourselves, god can be present and do something with us, but the moment we try to be what we are not. There is nothing left to say. Or have we become a fictitious personality, an unreal presence? And this unreal presence cannot be approached by God. He will not dignify the imposter with a conversation. He will not dignify me playing a part by having a conversation with the part that I'm playing. He would be giving me permission to stay in that role, and that's not what he's interested in.
Speaker 1:One of the things that I pray for my babies, when I pray for them at night, when they're going to bed, is I always ask the Lord to keep them authentic all of their days and never conform to someone else's idea of who they ought to be, but to be completely authentic in the identity that Yahweh has given them all their days, even if that identity, for a period of time, causes them not to fit into the round hole that society is trying to pound a square peg into, that our school systems are trying to pound a square peg into. I would so much rather my children remain authentic and untainted by the ideas of a culture that has an identity crisis. What our culture needs is not more confirmation. Our culture needs authenticity, and this is the beautiful piece about our culture needing authenticity. Authenticity is the one place in which God will deal with us. Authenticity is the one place that we can have a real relationship with the Father. Authentic conversation with Him comes from the real spaces of who we are and inside of that he brings us into more authenticity.
Speaker 1:The cool thing about this is that our authenticity Let me say it this way, because you can't become more authentic, right, but you can if you've been taught to conform, if you've been taught to conform to religion, you can become more authentically who Yahweh has created you to be. If you've been taught to conform by the school system or the culture or work or what have you, you can become more authentic in that you realize I've been conforming in this area and want to find a way to be authentically who Yahweh has created me to be inside of this space, and what you'll find is that the space that you've been created to conform to is actually in need of your authenticity. They coexist, and what the culture is demanding out of you in confirmation what that actually is doing is creating a self-defeating cycle of failure. It's creating a self-defeating cycle of failure and what they need is authentic ones who have been created to fill that space, even if they don't fit the perfect ideal of what they're looking for. I don't want to be a cog in a machine. I don't want to be a cog in a wheel. Yahweh didn't create us to be cogs in a wheel. He created us to be those that are creating the wheel. So there are solutions that are waiting on authenticity from the people of God.
Speaker 1:We have been, for the last five gatherings that would be. This would be three months now if it's six gatherings in a row, now that we have been teaching on the kindness of God, the compassion of God and the intervention of Jesus inside of his kindness and compassion for us, of his kindness and compassion for us. The reason that I am hammering this to the degree that I have been hammering this is that if you examine the Gospels, you'll never find a moment when an intervention by Jesus happens in someone's life that his power is what motivated this intervention. You can't find it one time. In fact, I'd challenge you to go through the Old Testament and try to find moments of miraculous breakthrough inside of the children of Israel and find it motivated by his power.
Speaker 1:One of the things that we have done in America, in the American church culture, is that we have overemphasized the power of God to the point. And how do you overemphasize something that's limitless right? You put your emphasis on something that is not a motivating factor. Inside of his heart, his power is his state of being. If we were to ask someone as long as they believed in God, as long as they were not an atheist, is God powerful? There wouldn't be a soul that would say no, I don't believe God has enough power to do anything. We always believe and we'll use these words. We'll use these words specifically if he wants to, he'll do it. Or if it's his will, he'll do this. Or if it's when God gets around to it, we'll get this done. Well, he's not getting around to anything. It's all already been accomplished. He's not getting around to anything. It's all already been accomplished. It's all been paid for. There's a payment that has already been made and all we need to then do is make a withdrawal.
Speaker 1:Bill Johnson says it this way there's never, when we're praying and believing God, for intervention or for healing, or for supernatural help in something and we don't see that supernatural help. It's never. The lack is never on his end. The lack is never on his end, then how do you square that? We're all learning to partner with heaven. We're all learning how to partner with heaven and in those moments, even sometimes when they're extraordinarily painful, what we're doing is we're learning how to partner with heaven more effectively, even inside of confusion and misunderstanding. And, honestly, some of that is enduring faith. That has to be built inside of the heart of the believer in order to begin to partner with heaven effectively. There is an endurance to faith that moves the heart of God in ways that nothing else will. And I don't know why and I had this conversation with my friend Luke I don't know why endurance in faith is so important to the heart of God, other than the writers of the epistles constantly are saying if you'll endure, you'll inherit life, if you'll endure, you'll inherit a crown of life. To him that endures is given to inherit the crown of life. But there's revelation inside of that tension, guys, and not just revelation inside of that tension. I think life is found inside of that tension, guys, and not just revelation inside of that tension. I think life is found inside of that tension. I think there's life found inside of that tension Although I don't have all of the answers, and if I wanted to be an effective communicator right now, at this moment, what I would do is I'd just make something up and I'd be really convincing about what I was making up, but it wouldn't be true.
Speaker 1:See, this is what we've done with the gospel is we have made it something to package and something to sell, and so there's no room for mystery inside of selling something. There's no room for tension inside of something you're trying to sell, lou. There's no room for tension inside of something you're trying to sell. There's no room for tension inside of something you're trying to sell, lou. There's no room for tension inside of something you're trying to sell. There's no room for mystery inside of trying to sell something. So if you're the brand of your particular religious association or organization, if you are the brand which most pastors are the brand of their church, that's how we're building these things. They're the brand, and if they're the brand, they're then not allowed to have questions about anything. What they then must do, what they then must do, is have answers for things that you can't have answers to. In order to effectively sell something that's not for sale, you have to have answers for things there are no answers to, in order to sell something that's not for sale, in order to be an effective organizational leader inside of the Western American church system and friends. This is why we have a powerless gospel.
Speaker 1:Those that are walking in the greatest level of power, those that are walking in the greatest I feel the grace of the Lord on this those that are walking in the greatest grace from heaven that I see. These are the ones I'm aware of. Not I'm not aware of all of them. There are more than I know, there are a lot more than I know, and I'm sure there are more profound ones than I know, but I start to turn my heart towards those that I have looked up to and those that I have watched for years. At this point, walk without stumbling, walk without falling into failure, walk without making a mess, walk without embarrassing the church or embarrassing themselves or embarrassing their family.
Speaker 1:Walking in purity before the Lord, the best that they can, and walking in the greatest grace for supernatural intervention, walking in the greatest level of supernatural power. Walking in the greatest level of supernatural power, walking in the greatest level of grace with the Holy Spirit. They also walk in the greatest level of mystery. They hold the tension of mystery. They hold the tension of mystery and it's all been accomplished. And there's a mystery to. It's all been accomplished and there's nothing left to do other than to receive it, and all we have to do in order to receive is apply our faith according to the word.
Speaker 1:But how does that end up working itself out? And there's a mysterious piece to this that you can't fit inside of systemic thought processes and those that carry that well, always walk in power, always, always, always walk in power, always walk in grace, always walk inside of a high degree of the presence of almighty Yahweh. Why is that? Because he still lives inside of a cloud called unknowing, and we're not going to get to cleft the course of. There are just some things about an unknowable God that I don't understand. There are just some things about one that is beyond finding out, that I can't at this moment explain to you, but maybe in 50 years I'll be able to explain it a little more, or maybe I won't even care to explain it in 50 years. Maybe in 50 years you'll just be able to look inside of my eyes and see an assurance that, although I may not be able to explain exactly what you're asking me, I've got an assurance inside of me that you couldn't buy with money. I've got an insurance inside of me that you couldn't pay me to give to you, because there's something of building relationship inside of the cloud of unknowing, with the one who is himself beyond finding out. That removes the requirement for having theological certainty.
Speaker 1:I hold everything very loosely. You don't want church leaders don't need to say that I hold everything loosely. They want, they want you to know that need to say that I hold everything loosely. They want you to know that. You know that. You know that. You know Well, that removes the ability for mystery and that removes the ability for power.
Speaker 1:If you obey me, obey my commandments. If you love me, there we go. If you love me, obey my commandments. If you love me, obey my commandments and I will ask the Father and he will give you another advocate who will never leave you. He is the Holy Spirit who leads you into all truth. The world cannot receive him because it isn't looking for him and doesn't recognize him. But you know him because he lives with you and later will be in you. No, I will not abandon you as orphans. I will come to you. See, the world will no longer see me, but you will see me. Since I live. You will also live when I am raised to life again. You will know that I am in my Father and you are in me and I am in you. Those who accept my commandment and obey them are the ones who love me. And those who love me, my Father will love them and I will love them and reveal myself to each of them.
Speaker 1:But now I am going away to the one who sent me. Not one of you is asking where I'm going. Instead, you grieve because of what I have told you. This is Jesus. That was John 14. This is now John 16. I was in John 14, and we looked at verses 15 through 21, and now we're in John 16, verse 5. But now I am going away to the one who sent me, and not one of you is asking where I am going. Instead, you grieve because of what I've told you. I think I would be grieving too if I were them. I think I think I would be upset too, but in fact it is best for you that I go away. This statement right here. But in fact it is best for you that I go away, but in fact it is best for your development as a beloved son of Almighty Yahweh that I go. There's a level of inheritance you can't reach if I don't go. There's a level of inheritance you can't reach if I don't go. There's a level of maturity in God that you can't come to unless I go. There's a level of glory that you yourself will not be able to internalize unless I go. Now I've heard profound men of God, damon being one of them, teach on the idea that wherever there's a majority of the Godhead, that place then becomes the seat of heaven and becomes heaven. So that's why there couldn't be two in the same space at once. I've heard that. I've heard that. But Jesus, motivated by compassion, went away. His ascension and seating at the right hand of the Father is motivated by compassion for us. Everything he did was motivated by compassion for us.
Speaker 1:Oral Roberts, who had one of the most profound healing ministries, one of the most profound miracle ministries of the 20th century the 1900s I mean and you can go through YouTube catalogs on him. He's got some pretty good YouTube videos. You can still find Some of the others too. Jack Coe you can find Jack Coe pulling cancer off of people's face and stuff. He was part of the tent evangelist and he got arrested in Miami for practicing medicine without a license. He's one of those guys. He and AA Allen and a couple others all had that fate befall them.
Speaker 1:Um, texas was not a great place of kindness for these guys. They would get arrested. Um rw shambach got arrested in texas one time. Yeah, yeah, they're practicing medicine without a license. That's what they'd charge them with practicing medicine without a license and people would be coming out of wheelchairs in your practice. It was just hateful people that were religious and didn't understand it. Yeah, they get Well, and that's not far from some of the accusations that get leveled against Bill Johnson. Yeah well, I don't think it was Big Pharma back then. I think it was big pharma back then. I think it was just kind of an objection to the way that they were worshiping god.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, rw rw shambach told a story about getting in his car at the hotel and the police and the cop being waiting for him, waiting for him in his cruiser across the street and he's trying to get to the tent meeting and he told his driver to go out around the backside of the hotel and he snuck off and got to the tent meeting before the cop could arrest him, he preached and when he got done he got arrested. After he got done preaching, the cop was so upset at him he was trying to keep him from going to his meeting that night and the RW said you ain't going to keep me. So he goes around the backside of the hotel, sneaks off, goes the other way through town and circles around back to his tent meeting and people are getting healed and the glory of God is falling. And then he steps off the stage, the copper rests, he goes to jail. That one that one was for, that one was for um, that one was for preaching the gospel with a loudspeaker is why they arrested him. Yeah, yeah, and the judge in that case. He spent tens of thousands of dollars defending himself and everything and fines, and the judge gave him all that money back. And when he gave him all that money he made the police department pay him back that money. And when he did, he bought a tent for his students to travel with. And so students of East Texas Bible College then would spend the summer. There'd be a team of them from the summer that would hold tent meetings across Texas preaching the gospel with a loudspeaker across the state of Texas, with money that the police department had to pay back to them for fining them for preaching the gospel with a loudspeaker.
Speaker 1:Touche, yeah, touche. But in fact it is best for you that I go away, because if I don't, the advocate won't come. If I do go away, then I will send him to you and when he comes he will convict the world of its sin and of God's righteousness and of the coming judgment. The world's sin is that it refuses to believe in me. Righteousness is available because I go to the Father and you will see me. No more Judgment will come because the ruler of this world has already been judged. Judgment will come because the ruler of this world has already been judged. Judgment will come because the ruler of this world has already been judged. We misunderstand this so much.
Speaker 1:The Holy Spirit's role is to convince the world of the victory of Jesus. When it says he's going to bring conviction, he's bringing the conviction that Yeshua has already been made the most victorious man that ever lived and he has already accomplished all that needs to be accomplished. He is currently victorious. He did not fall short one inch in the victory that had been predetermined for him. There is so much more that I want to tell you, but you can't bear it now. I imagine not. He's telling them he's going to die and when the spirit of truth, when the spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not watch this piece, he will not speak on his own, but he will tell you what he has heard and he will tell you the future. He will bring me glory by telling you whatever he receives from me. He will bring me glory by telling you whatever he receives from me. All that belongs to the Father is mine. This is why I said the Spirit will tell you whatever he receives from me, whatever he receives from me.
Speaker 1:The ministry of the Holy Spirit to humanity is motivated by the great compassion of the Father, and his position here on the earth is made possible because Yeshua went to the Father and then asked the Father to send the Spirit, and the Father sent the gift. Paul calls him the gift of the Father. There's an element oh my gosh, I don't have any notes on this, so I'm just we're not doing notes today. There's an element to the ministry of the spirit that is an extension of the compassionate heart of Jesus, and I can prove that by saying he will. He will glorify me by telling you what he has heard, and what he has heard will be from me. It says this when the Spirit comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own, but will tell you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future that part right there. He will show you things to come. The New King James says. He will tell you about the future. He will bring me glory by telling you whatever he receives from who? From me. He will bring me glory by telling you whatever he receives from me.
Speaker 1:The ministry of the Holy Spirit is not, then, different than the ministry of Jesus. I only do what I see the Father doing, jesus. I only do what I see the Father doing. Holy Spirit, then, could say I only reveal the things that Jesus has given me to reveal and I only do the things I see him doing. All that belongs to the Father is mine. All that belongs to the father is mine. All that belongs to the father is whose. All that belongs to the father is jesus. This is why I said the spirit will tell you whatever he receives from me. I'm going to close up. The Spirit will tell you whatever he receives from me, he's going to lead you into all truth. Dr Simmons calls Him. The way that Dr Simmons interprets it, he says I will send you another Savior who's just like me. If Christ is the fullness of the Godhead bodily, if he's the exact image of the Godhead which he is, holy Spirit then is Christ-like. And there's an element to the ministry of the Spirit that is an extension of the compassion of Jesus. So when we see Jesus, let's look at this real quick. I'm going to get to one piece of my notes. Let's look at this real quick.
Speaker 1:And, guys, I had something powerful to say today. I had something about the love of God for the Pharisees that I thought was incredible and how every time Jesus healed on the Sabbath, he was actually inviting them into transformation. And he didn't actually heal on the Sabbath to upset the religious order. He healed on the Sabbath to transform the religious order. And there's an invitation inside of the healing, inside of the synagogues, that would say guys, you're trying, it's not even just, this is for you, it's you're trying to portray a God who doesn't exist. And I'm showing you who he is. I'm going to get to that eventually. I'll share that another time, maybe this fall. Maybe this fall I'll get there. But we're going to go into just as a side note Samuel Lake, if you're not going to stop, you're going to get spanked, and that just went out on the air. And I don't care, stop it, we believe in spanking. Yeah, that's right, all right.
Speaker 1:So we're going to launch into, I think, over the summer, some real cultural teaching. So I'm seeing a need to we've cobbled together somewhat of a foundation for the resting place, and I don't see us building a church as much as I see us building a culture, and one of the things that I see a need for is cultural teaching. So how does the culture of the resting place function and what does it actually look like? And there's a need, I think, for some cultural teaching. So what we're going to launch into and it may not be every gathering that we come together we do cultural teaching, but that's going to become somewhat of an emphasis, at least in my heart, that we begin to do some of that what that is going to prepare us to do is that's going to prepare us then to have a sure foundation we can build on. There can't be an effective building campaign unless there's been an effective laying of a foundation. So what we then have to do is we have to make sure that the foundation is secure and set, and if we're building a culture, what that means is you have to have an understanding of what that culture is. So and I think we've done a decent job of hitting on and teaching some of the key points and some of the high notes, but we're going to go into a little bit it won't all be practical because I can't just function practically because of the high notes, but we're going to go into a little bit. Uh, it won't all be practical because I can't just function practically because of the way that I'm bent, but I might let Logan do it and make her. She just crossed her eyes and shook her head, so I won't let her do that. I'll be doing all of it and I'll be doing all of it and uh, yeah, she'll, she'll add her two cents. When I need help, I'll tap out and I'll let her go.
Speaker 1:The ministry of the Holy Spirit is an extension of the compassion of Jesus. The ministry of the Holy Spirit is an extension of the compassion of Jesus, oral Roberts in seeking the key to the healing ministry, as healing ministries were so big in the 40s and 50s and he's seeking God to start a healing ministry. And God had him spend a number of weeks reading the Gospels over and over again on his knees. He said I want you to read the Gospels. You get on your knees, you read the Gospels. That's sometimes that's how the Lord leads us. You're just going to get in a position of humility and you're going to read the gospels. So he did, and at the end of I believe it was a 30 day period of time where he was to just read the gospels over and over again on his knees. At the end of it the Lord asked him Oral, do you want the key to the healing ministry? And he said yes. And the Lord whispered one word to him and that word was compassion.
Speaker 1:And what we have done in Western cultures we have emphasized the power of God at the expense of the compassion of God, because innately he is powerful. But being powerful and having faith in his power is not then enough to attract his intervention. Ff Bosworth does a beautiful job of laying this truth out in Christ the Healer, where he has an entire chapter on the compassion of God and he lays out beautifully the truth that believing in the power of God is not different than what the devils believe about God. You believe that God is powerful. You do well. Even demons believe that he is powerful. The power is motivated by compassion. The intervention of heaven is motivated by compassion. The intervention of heaven is motivated by it. The compassionate core motivates the extension of power. The compassionate core motivates the extension of intervention. The compassionate core of Almighty Yahweh motivates the intervention of heaven in situations that need a supernatural intervention.
Speaker 1:So when we say things like we need heaven to intervene, what we need then is the compassion of God to intervene. And what then do you have to place your faith in? You have to place your faith in the willingness of God to intervene in your situation, based on nothing other than he loves you. So this is, this is the, this is the genius of the plan of the religious order motivated by the doctrines of demons motivated. This is what actually a doctrine of demon is.
Speaker 1:A doctrine of demons is a demonic twisting of a doctrine that would render that doctrine powerless. That's what actually that is. It's not deliverance ministry. Deliverance ministry is not a doctrine of demons. That's the most idiotic statement I have ever heard. Is that a deliverance ministry is the doctrine of demons. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard anyone say. Almost I did not mean to. Well, there we are, so got it out. Um, we have twisted the doctrines of the necessary, the necessary tools for the intervention of God to be something other than the motivating factor of his love for us. And this is the beautiful piece of beloved identities, because it makes you more able to receive the love of the Father, which then invites his compassion to invade your situation. That needs supernatural intervention. That needs supernatural intervention.
Speaker 1:So religion, then, takes a truth about God, that he is powerful, exalts it to the place of the one thing that we have to place our faith in, and having faith in his power is not then enough to cause the intervention of heaven. He's powerful, he's powerful, he's powerful, he's willing, he's willing, he's willing, he's willing, he's willing, he's willing, he's willing, because what we'll then do if he's powerful is we'll then do if he's powerful is we'll cause his willingness to come into question, and then we're fighting a circular firing squad where if he's willing, he'll do it, and if he's not willing, it must mean that he's not willing. If he's not doing it, it must mean that he's not willing but he's powerful enough to do it. He's powerful enough to intervene, but he's not willing enough to intervene. And we almost do this thing. Well, we don't almost. We do this thing in our interior thought process, where we cause the intervention of heaven to be withheld because God is not willing to intervene. And Holy Spirit's ministry is an extension of the compassion of Jesus, in that he doesn't do anything or say anything that does not come from Jesus, and everything Jesus has in turn comes from the Father. This is the circular beauty of the triune dance between the father, son and spirit. Everything that each of them has spawns from one another. They're not at odds with one another.
Speaker 1:So one Sabbath day is Jesus was teaching in a synagogue. He saw a woman. This is Luke 13,. And then we're done. One Sabbath day, as Jesus was teaching in a synagogue, he saw a woman who had been crippled by an evil spirit. She had been double for 18 years and was unable to stand up. She had been bent double for 18 years and was unable to stand up straight. She had been bent double for 18 years and was unable to stand up straight. 18 years she had been in this scenario when Jesus saw her. So let's set the scenario.
Speaker 1:Jesus enters the synagogue on the Sabbath. He sees a woman who has been crippled by an evil spirit or a spirit of infirmity. She had been bent double for 18 years and was unable to stand up straight. When Jesus saw her, he called her over and said Dear woman, you are healed of your sickness. Dear woman, dear woman, you are healed of your sickness. Dear woman, you are healed of your sickness. When he touched her then he touched her and instantly she could stand up straight. How she praised God.
Speaker 1:But the leader in charge of the synagogue was indignant with Jesus that Jesus had healed her on the Sabbath day. There are six days of the week for working. He said to the crowd Come on those days to be healed, not on the Sabbath. Come on those days to be healed, not on the Sabbath. Don't come on this day to be healed, come on the six days that are designated for work. But the Lord replied you hypocrites, each of you works on the Sabbath day. Don't you untie your ox or your donkey from its stall on the Sabbath and lead it out for water. This dear woman, a daughter of Abraham, has been held in bondage by Satan for eighteen years. Isn't it right that she should be released, even on the Sabbath day? This shamed his enemies, but all the people rejoiced at the wonderful things he did.
Speaker 1:There was an oral tradition, and this is the end I'm done. There was an oral tradition inside of Jewish belief concerning the Sabbath day that men were not allowed to untie their donkey, or their oxen, or their horse or whatever stock animal, that they had, their goats or whatever. They were not allowed to untie them in order to use them to work, but it would be cruel to leave them tied and not receive water, as it was necessary for their well-being. So this is what he's saying. He's saying it's necessary that you untie your donkey on the Sabbath day for its well-being. How much more, then, should I loose this woman from her sickness because it's for her well-being? In other words, it would be cruel of me, it would be cruel of me to leave her tied up, in the same way that it would be cruel of you to leave your donkey tied up to the fence post.
Speaker 1:It would be cruel of me to leave this woman when I have the ability to set her free from her infirmity. It would be, then, cruel for me to leave her that way. And I'm not cruel. I'm showing you what the father's really like. That's why I have come. I have come to image forth the image of the father, and he's not cruel. The image of the father is that he is a compassionate father, and it is no different than leading this stock animal to water me, releasing you from your infirmity. It would be cruel for me to leave you there.